[74891] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BCP38 making it work, solving problems
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (JP Velders)
Tue Oct 19 13:36:50 2004
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:33:29 +0200 (CEST)
From: JP Velders <jpv@veldersjes.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20041019133618.D307A13E15@sa.vix.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:36:18 +0000
> From: Paul Vixie <paul@vix.com>
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: BCP38 making it work, solving problems
> [ ... ]
> > As it was "in the old days": first clean up your own act and then
> > start pointing at others that they're doing "it" wrong.
> > It's a mentality I see very rarely amongst the larger ISP's who've
> > been part of that 'I' in their name since the very early beginning.
> i found out from verisign that big companies call something
> "innovation" if it hasn't been generally done before and if it
> immediately increases revenue.
> failing the "immediately increases revenue" part, no big company
> will do anything that hasn't been generally done before.
<aol>
And continuing on that road would lead to innovation, how ?
</aol>
> [ ... ]
> i'm pretty depressed at the lack of self regulation among the techiefolk.
Techiefolk are 'commodity' nowadays.
The ones that do care are vastly outnumbered.
(which doesn't mean they should stop caring!)
> responses to BCP38 of the form "but my customer has a good reason to spoof"
> or "but my equipment can't do wire speed SAV" or "but BCP38 will not solve
> all DDoS problems single-handedly" are small minded, provincial, and wrong.
> ... it's just "but if man was meant to fly he'd have wings" all over again.
Thinking outside of the box or about "The Greater Good" is something
of a quaint idea nowadays :( Think I'll go dust off my wings... ;D
Regards,
JP Velders
