[74630] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Fixing stuff (was Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Sat Oct 9 11:49:10 2004
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:50:10 +0200
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0410090639280.4222@clifden.donelan.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> But compared to the success rate of the bot writers, the anti-bot tools
> fall far behind. Some people estimate between 10 million and 30 million
Actually, there are some fine Anti Trojan (AT) tools out there. Try out
The Cleaner and BOClean.
> new bots have been created this year. That number is probably a bit low,
I'd estimate double that, but heck, I estimated there are drone armies
when everybody said there is no such animal in existence... so I don't
know about estimations.
> Masking infections is only a partial answer. As long as the computer is
> compromised, it can be taken over again in new ways. Going from fixing a
> million PCs a year to fixing 30 million (and probably more) PCs a year,
> needs to move beyond just sending complaints.
It would be a good start.
> Why don't people want to fix their computers? And even worse, why are
Want to fix their computers? Try smaller and easier.
How about updating AV software, heck - how about INSTALLING AV software?
Some say that computers demand a license, much like cars. I'm beginning
to agree. It would never happen.
> Sorry Grandma, you've just lost all the digital pictures of your
> grandkids growing up.
Eh? What grandkids? Oh! Those yes. Dementia, sorry.
Gadi.
