[74621] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Sat Oct 9 00:05:25 2004
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 06:08:08 +0200
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix@poptix.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20041008210120.GU2829@momentum.poptix.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> Only when they do something about it.
Trouble? When they have 40K extra users to pay for bandwidth (easily
eats up a T1 or two), it's damage enough. Besides, would you like
someone to launch "cyber A-Bombs" (phaa) from your network?
>>1. Worrying about personal privacy of their users, not wanting to bend
>>too many rules to fight these drones that *appear* like regular users.
>
>
> Appear? If you own one of the blocks below, please do something about it.
And I know people who mail abuse reports for hundreds of such *lists*,
something /rarely/ gets done.
One thing they focus on it taking down control web pages. For example if
the runner would give a command: 'update http://etc.com/evil.trojan.exe'
or if the drones spam themselves on irc.. then it's all about the abuse
teams. Some are really responsive, some just ignore.
Last time I took the time to inform ISP's about such a list was when it
was a 700 large army of *nix boxes. Haven't seen one of those for years
before that. It was 3 months ago or so.
It was rather funny really. Lesson learned: don't use hostnames like
"securebox" or "secureserver1" or such.
> sadsa``` ~orion@67.98.36.19 Don't Touch Me
> `o`hj`h` ~orion@67.98.36.19 Don't Touch Me
> TaiFrunze ~orion@66.136.184.186 Don't Touch Me
{snip}
I try and take care personally of drones and abusers I see coming from
Israel.. it's way too much work and annoyance as it is, thanks though.
Most ISP's truly don't want this as their own problem. I personally
don't blame them. Luckily the ISP I work for has no home users.
If you have any problem in Israel, whether with finding a contact or
reaching law enforcement - feel free to email me and I'd be glad to find
you a contact.
Gadi.
