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Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Wed Sep 22 11:54:00 2004

From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:51:24 +0100
To: John Curran <jcurran@mail.com>
Cc: Lars-Johan Liman <liman@autonomica.se>, nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> At 10:16 AM +0200 9/22/04, Lars-Johan Liman wrote:
>> I cannot agree to the "block port 25" line of action.
> 
> You block port 25 until a customer says that they're claim to have
> setup a responsible mail submission agent and demonstrate the
> necessary clue density.

[ we have had this discussion before.  how many times are we doomed
  to have it? ]

in the north american culture, this is usually termed "guilty
until proven innocent," and generally discouraged.  perhaps we
should not deprive the customer of rights/services until they
have been shown to have abused them?

lars-johan's posting was a wonderfully eloquent plea for the
survival of the internet, as opposed to the walled-garden telco
model.

randy


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