[73808] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RIPE "Golden Networks" Document ID - 229/210/178
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rodney Joffe)
Fri Sep 3 23:49:29 2004
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 20:48:57 -0700
From: Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20040903131458.R8157@sprockets.gibbard.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Hi Steve,
Steve Gibbard wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Rodney Joffe wrote:
<snip>
> So, it seems to me that there are three questions here:
>
> What is critical infrastructure? DNS for which domains? What about other
> services? Google? Hotmail or Yahoo? The answer to this presumably
> varies considerably from place to place.
>
> What should the providers of critical infrastructure be doing to make sure
> their critical infrastructure remains available?
>
> What should network operators be doing to make sure their networks can
> access critical infrastructure?
The main question I was asking was actually:
"How many of you who manage BGP speaking networks implement the RIPE
"best practices" regarding dampening parameters for so-called "golden
networks"?
So, while I know your analysis and suggestions are important, this list
suffers sufficiently from the "rathole" syndrome for me to respectfully
move it back on subject. My primary question was quite simple, and most
of the responses I have had have been just as simple and concise.
For those who care, based on responses and some analysis, it appears
that very few networks do follow the ripe-229 recommendations regarding
"golden networks", including, oddly enough, parts of RIPE itself.
Thanks to those who did respond.
/rlj