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Re: RIPE "Golden Networks" Document ID - 229/210/178

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rodney Joffe)
Fri Sep 3 15:41:20 2004

In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0409031843290.19437-100000@server2.tcw.telecomplete.net>
From: Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:40:42 -0700
To: NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Sep 3, 2004, at 10:46 AM, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:

>> Given Network A, which has "golden network" content behind it as 
>> described by
>> the RIPE paper (root and tld data), if the network has some 
>> combination of
>> events that result in all of their announcements to you being 
>> dampened by you,
>> your users can't get "there". For grin's, let's say we're talking 
>> about .foo,
>> one of the larger gtld's.
>
> But .foo is announced from 13 IPs globally, allowing for anycast 
> probably 40
> nodes. If gtld-A has an incident it may be a good thing to dampen it 
> from the
> internet as it may not be reachable, the other 12 gtlds will be able 
> to serve
> responses in a stable manner.
>
> Unless you're suggesting *all* the gtlds are flapping at once?

Sorry. I thought I made that clear, in that "if the network has some 
combination of events that result in all of their announcements to you 
being dampened by you". I am not talking about events that happen all 
of the time, where one of 13 hiccups. .foo may have 13 IPs but they 
have two upstream providers, and the event causes all of their routes 
to flap.


Rodney Joffe
CenterGate Research Group, LLC
http://www.centergate.com
"Technology so advanced, even WE don't understand it"(R)



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