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Re: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Galbavy)
Tue Aug 31 03:51:26 2004

From: "Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy@knowtion.net>
To: "Lars Erik Gullerud" <lerik@nolink.net>,
	"Simon Lyall" <simon@darkmere.gen.nz>
Cc: <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:50:31 +0100
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Lars Erik Gullerud wrote:
> Then there's always the option to implement something else. Hm, where
> can I order a CARP license again...?

... which is why I think I used VRRP as an example - "ignore and replace" as 
opposed to "embrace and extend".

In answer to Mark Borchers' point about the IETF draft mentioning 
"reasonable and non-discriminatory", I have the reply from Cisco's dude 
(whose name I forget, but I think he reads NANOG) that offers "me" the 
license, on non-discrimintory terms, part of which is to never claim against 
Cisco for any patent I may hold. That's not reasonable to me. But hey.

I only used VRRP as an example and by no means as the single only one. I 
like W3C's way of doing things, and not the IETF's for the moment - but I 
suppose the subject line should change to reflect a different area of 
discussion... still about the network operators costs though.

Peter 


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