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Re: Blocked port 25?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Byron L.Hicks)
Thu Aug 19 08:59:28 2004

In-Reply-To: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKMELDOAAA.davids@webmaster.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
From: Byron L.Hicks <bhicks@nmsu.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:58:44 -0600
To: davids@webmaster.com
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



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> 	If I understand you correctly, you are saying that these sites are 
> not able
> to send mail to you. Assuming that they are diverse sites that don't 
> have
> significant similarities, this suggests that the problem is on your 
> end.

In theory, I agree.  But I'm running out of options in my 
troubleshooting and I'm looking for some wisdom from some of the 
experts.

>> From these sites, I
>> can't connect to our mail server, on other sites, I can.
>
> 	I don't understand what this is supposed to mean. It's their mail 
> servers
> that are supposed to try to connect to your mail server.

I understand that.  I have unix account access at one of the sites that 
cannot connect to our mail servers.  I have sent test email, and I have 
tried to telnet to port 25 on the mail server, and the connection times 
out.  I have put a Finisar network analyzer on the ethernet port of our 
border router, and I don't see the traffic even crossing the router.  
We have no firewall, and the access-list is right on the router (we are 
receiving mail from other sites).  What else can I look at?

> 	When you say you can't connect to your server on port 25, where 
> exactly are
> you trying from?

I have a unix account on a server at one of the remote sites that 
cannot send email to NMSU.

>  Did you try emailing (or calling) the administrators of
> those sites?

They just point to me and say "The problem is on your end, fix it."  
Much like you are saying in this email.

>  If you use SPF, are your records valid? Do the senders get any
> bounces?
>

We aren't getting bounces from our mail server. Their mail servers are 
bouncing the messages because the connection to our mail server timed 
out.

> 	Your statement of the problem is lack of specifics. We can't check 
> your SPF
> records. We can't check if those domains have a common provider.

The domains in question do not have a common provider.  We are not 
using SPF.

>  So all we
> can do is tell you to troubleshoot.

I understand that.  Let me restate my request: If anyone on nanog 
cannot send email to nmsu.edu, please send me a tcptraceroute on port 
25 to our mail server.  I need some forensics to help me diagnose this 
problem.  You will have to reply to me at byronhicks@byronhicks.com to 
keep the noise level down on the list.  Thanks in advance for any help 
that I will receive.

--
Byron L. Hicks
Network Engineer
NMSU ICT

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