[73293] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Phishing (Was Re: WashingtonPost computer security stories)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brett)
Wed Aug 18 18:03:07 2004
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:01:59 -0700
From: Brett <bretton@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brett <bretton@gmail.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0408170904500.49910@manganese.bos.dyndns.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
I received a few messages as well, one with US Bank, which I don't
have an account with, and they both had images attached. The image
was displayed, without any external connection.
As far as fighting abuse with abuse, it's not *always* a bad idea. If
the databases are filled with bad entries, it will be too costly to
sort through valid data. Other people will cease to purchase
information from the phisher because of unreliable data, or less will
be paid. Either way, there will be less money in the particular
method and less of an incentive. It will not stop phishing totally,
but why make it easier? If you've got some extra time to write
something, then go for it.
As far as legal concerns, there is no law against lying to someone
that is trying to steal from you.
-b
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:06:30 -0400 (EDT), Tim Wilde <twilde@dyndns.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> > It's a 1 line rule with mod_rewrite and apache to block
> > nonexistant or off-site http referers attempting to display
> > GIF/JPG/PNG images... Sometimes I wonder why Citibank,
> > Paypal and others don't do this. It would cut down on the
> > displayed authenticity level of many basic phishes.
>
> Because many (broken) browsers/proxies/"firewalls"/etc block or forge
> referrer headers "for security" and they'd quadruple their tech support
> load with all their idiot customers using Norton Internet Security or
> other similar products calling in saying "why don't I get any images on
> the site? waah!" This simply isn't an option in the real world.
>
> --
> Tim Wilde
> twilde@dyndns.org
> Systems Administrator
> Dynamic Network Services, Inc.
> http://www.dyndns.org/
>
