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Re: VeriSign's rapid DNS updates in .com/.net

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christian Kuhtz)
Fri Jul 23 10:13:52 2004

Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:05:21 -0400
From: "Christian Kuhtz" <christian.kuhtz@BELLSOUTH.COM>
To: <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <20040723092910.983BF41E9@z.spamhaus.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu





On 7/23/04 5:29 AM, "Richard Cox" <richard@mandarin.com> wrote:

>=20
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:27:37 -1000 Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>=20
> | all they need to do is register foo.bar with delegation to their
> | dns servers, and change a third level domain name at will.
>=20
> Er, no.  They have of course tried that already!
>=20
> By registering foo.bar with delegation to THEIR dns servers gives full
> identification of THEIR dns servers, and the host or upstream of those
> servers can (and often does) start invoking their acceptable use =
policy.
> If not, then all the considerations that Paul V. recently cited about
> neighbours who allow bad things on their network, start to kick in.
>=20
> The scenario I have outlined - now well established, and the mechanism
> understood - allows the malfeasants to operate on the 'net with zero
> traceability of their identity or location, based on everything they =
do
> being able to be done through zombied Windows PCs or open(ed) proxies.

The distribution of spam is only half of the economy at work here.  Spam
doesn't occur in a vacuum.  The other half is the "site(s)" profiting =
from
the spam. =20


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