[72593] in North American Network Operators' Group
Traffic Volume Manager ? (Previously: RE: Regional differences in P2P)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hendrianto Muljawan)
Mon Jul 19 05:12:30 2004
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:11:28 +0800
From: "Hendrianto Muljawan" <muljawan@siemens.com>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
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Hello,
the discussion here is getting interesting for me, because people are
talking about not only capping the Bandwidth but also capping the volume
of the traffic sent by a customer.
So far people are used to do the capping of bandwidth with a Bandwidth
Manager device, which does traffic shaping based on e.g.
application/protocols, etc.
Now, since we are talking about capping on the volume, what is the
product available on the market which can do both bandwidth and volume
capping ?
thanks,
Muljawan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Michel Py
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 3:28 AM
To: sthaug@nethelp.no
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Regional differences in P2P
> Steinar Haug wrote:
> Telenor, the largest Norwegian service provider, capped their ADSL=20
> customers at a ridiculously low 1 Gbyte/month for a while. Presumably=20
> they lost sufficient business to other
> (uncapped) providers that they noticed - the cap has now been removed.
Ridiculous is the word here. Download two service packs and you're done
for the month? I can understand this happening in Brazil or India, where
caps are a tool to attract enough customers so they bring revenue that
in turn will be re-injected in much needed backbone upgrades, but in
Norway or the US it does not make a lot of sense to me.
>> Michel Py wrote:
>> I agree, but see above: a 40GB/mo cap is not something that I care=20
>> about. Granted, I'm not a hardcore file swapper but 40GB/mo are more
> Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> I don't know of any capped service over here, nobody dares take the=20
> first step. The largest 10meg provider here launched a new 100 meg=20
> full duplex service for their approx 200.000 household reach at=20
> USD$110 a month with a 300G cap (their 10 meg service for $45 a month=20
> is uncapped) and there has been a fair amount of users complaining=20
> about 300G not being nearly enough. When you start swapping DVDRs it=20
> just isn't.
There is a need for capping 10 and 100 meg residential though; if you
want to run your 100 Mb/s pipe full all the time it represents 26TB per
month in each direction; you can't give 2/3rds of an OC-3 to a customer
for $110/mo. A 300GB/mo cap means that the customer is using their line
an average of 1.15%, which brings the interesting question of what a
reasonable speed/cap ration should be.
1.5 Mb/s =3D 389 GB/mo
10 Mb/s =3D 2.6 TB/mo
100 Mb/s =3D 26 TB/mo
Speed/cap ratios:
1.5 Mb/s capped at 1 GB/mo =3D 0.25% ridiculous IMHO
10 Mb/s capped at 40 GB/mo =3D 1.54%
100 Mb/s capped at 300 GB/mo =3D 1.15%
Thoughts, anyone?
Michel.
