[72166] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Peering point speed publicly available?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cody Lerum)
Thu Jul 1 20:26:16 2004
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:25:32 -0600
From: "Cody Lerum" <clerum@transaria.com>
To: <erik@myevilempire.net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Cc: <network.support@oati.net>
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DNS can sometimes give you a hint
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[my nets snipped]
4 t3-1-2-0.ar2.SEA1.gblx.net (64.211.206.113) 20.436 ms 18.309 ms
17.605 ms <------------DS3=20
5 so1-0-0-2488M.ar4.SEA1.gblx.net (67.17.71.210) 17.607 ms 16.982 ms
16.971 ms <-----OC-48
6 p3-3.IR1.Seattle-WA.us.xo.net (206.111.7.5) 17.864 ms 19.491 ms
17.181 ms
7 p5-1-0-3.RAR1.Seattle-WA.us.xo.net (65.106.0.197) 17.723 ms 17.632
ms 19.045 ms
8 65.106.0.50 (65.106.0.50) 38.133 ms 39.197 ms 49.961 ms MPLS
Label=3D101549 CoS=3D0 TTL=3D1 S=3D1
9 p0-0-0d0.RAR1.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.1.61) 37.669 ms 38.572
ms 36.517 ms
10 p7-0.DCR1.DC-SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.2.146) 37.830 ms 36.524
ms 37.743 ms
11 ge1-1.CDR2.DC-SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (209.220.168.10) 38.428 ms
38.050 ms 37.179 ms <-----Gig Ethernet
12 205.158.6.100.ptr.us.xo.net (205.158.6.100) 40.179 ms 39.784 ms
39.444 ms
13 x218.cd9e6c.sj.concentric.net (205.158.108.218) 39.188 ms 39.723
ms 39.895 ms
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However MPLS hidden hops may hide internal paths, and any connection may
be limited to slower than its line rate, and dns entries may be old....
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It's not publicly available at one source that I'm aware of, and if
there is they don't have my info.
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-C=20
________________________________
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Erik Amundson
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 6:10 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Cc: network.support@oati.net
Subject: Peering point speed publicly available?
NANOG,
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I have a question regarding information on my ISP's peering
relationships. Are the speeds of some or all peering relationships
public knowledge, and if so, where can I find this? By speed, I mean
bandwidth (DS3, OC3, 100Mbps, 1Gbps, etc.). I am trying to transfer
large stuff from my AS, through my ISP, through another ISP, to another
AS, and I'm wondering how fast the peering point is between the ISPs.
I'm working with my provider to get this information as we speak, but
I'm wondering if it's available publicly anywhere. If it were, this
could be one way to evaluate providers in the future, I guess...
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Erik Amundson
A+, N+, CCNA, CCNP
IT and Network Manager
Open Access Technology Int'l, Inc.
Phone (763) 201-2005
Fax (763) 553-2813=20
mailto:erik.amundson@oati.net=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D485302000-02072004><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>DNS can sometimes give you a =
hint</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D485302000-02072004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>[my nets snipped]</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D485302000-02072004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2> 4 t3-1-2-0.ar2.SEA1.gblx.net =
(64.211.206.113) =20
20.436 ms 18.309 ms 17.605 ms =
<------------DS3=20
<BR> 5 so1-0-0-2488M.ar4.SEA1.gblx.net (67.17.71.210) =
17.607=20
ms 16.982 ms 16.971 ms <-----OC-48<BR> 6 =
p3-3.IR1.Seattle-WA.us.xo.net (206.111.7.5) 17.864 ms 19.491 =
ms 17.181 ms<BR> 7 p5-1-0-3.RAR1.Seattle-WA.us.xo.net=20
(65.106.0.197) 17.723 ms 17.632 ms 19.045 =
ms<BR> 8 =20
65.106.0.50 (65.106.0.50) 38.133 ms 39.197 ms 49.961=20
ms MPLS Label=3D101549 CoS=3D0 TTL=3D1 =
S=3D1<BR> 9 =20
p0-0-0d0.RAR1.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.1.61) 37.669 ms =
38.572=20
ms 36.517 ms<BR>10 p7-0.DCR1.DC-SanJose-CA.us.xo.net=20
(65.106.2.146) 37.830 ms 36.524 ms 37.743 =
ms<BR>11 =20
ge1-1.CDR2.DC-SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (209.220.168.10) 38.428 =
ms 38.050=20
ms 37.179 ms <-----Gig Ethernet<BR>12 =
205.158.6.100.ptr.us.xo.net=20
(205.158.6.100) 40.179 ms 39.784 ms 39.444 =
ms<BR>13 =20
x218.cd9e6c.sj.concentric.net (205.158.108.218) 39.188 ms =
39.723=20
ms 39.895 ms</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D485302000-02072004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D485302000-02072004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>However MPLS hidden hops may hide internal paths, and any =
connection may=20
be limited to slower than its line rate, and dns entries may be=20
old....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D485302000-02072004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D485302000-02072004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>It's=20
not publicly available at one source that I'm aware of, and if there is =
they=20
don't have my info.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D485302000-02072004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>-C</FONT></SPAN>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> owner-nanog@merit.edu=20
[mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Erik =
Amundson<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
Thursday, July 01, 2004 6:10 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
nanog@merit.edu<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
network.support@oati.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Peering point speed publicly =
available?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have a question =
regarding=20
information on my ISP’s peering relationships. Are the =
speeds of some or=20
all peering relationships public knowledge, and if so, where can I find=20
this? By speed, I mean bandwidth (DS3, OC3, 100Mbps, 1Gbps, =
etc.). I=20
am trying to transfer large stuff from my AS, through my ISP, through =
another=20
ISP, to another AS, and I’m wondering how fast the peering point =
is between the=20
ISPs. I’m working with my provider to get this information =
as we speak,=20
but I’m wondering if it’s available publicly anywhere. =
If it were, this=20
could be one way to evaluate providers in the future, I=20
guess…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3D1><SPAN=20
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N+, CCNA,=20
CCNP</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Black" size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Black'"><BR><FONT =
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Network Manager</SPAN></FONT><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DGungsuh =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Gungsuh">Open =
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Technology Int'l, Inc.<BR>Phone (763) 201-2005<BR>Fax (763) 553-2813=20
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