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RE: Unplugging spamming PCs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Larry Pingree)
Fri Jun 25 12:12:41 2004

Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:11:36 -0700
From: "Larry Pingree" <lpingree@juniper.net>
To: <jshen@spymac.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


	What I am proposing is have a registry that you must register
with before other mail servers will accept mail from you. Similar to how
MAPS RBL works, but the mail server itself, enforces it, rather than a
firewall or a ancillary device ACL. This could be made a standard of
SMTP.

LP
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Best Regards,
=20
Larry
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Larry Pingree
408-543-2190
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"Visionary people, are visionary, partly because of the great many
things they never get to see." - Larry Pingree

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shen [mailto:jshen@spymac.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:36 PM
To: Larry Pingree
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Unplugging spamming PCs

Hi,

>Mail servers should be registered just like domains and shutdown by a
>registrar if they are misusing their registered services. This really
>needs to be handled by a multi-lateral legal solution, industry will
not
>fix it alone.

No, I don't think this is good solution


First of all, we could not ask customers to register everything they
planned with leased line without legal reasons.=20
Second,  if I hire DSL/leased_line service  from ISP and set up domain
name for myself,  ISP could not ask me to=20
tell them which port should be opened as I'm not taking a firewalling
service, I'm not a member of my service provider.
I should be able to do anything that are not perhibited by law or affact
someothers. =20

 Blocking_port_25 indicates  ISP  pre-assume that customers  will SPAM
their network.  But, SPAMmer is just a very small=20
group of people.  Maybe most of them comes from other countries ( what
happens in China). =20

To me,  the proper way of anti-spam may ask cooperation between ISPs and
Email service providers.  Anyway,=20
strengthening anti-spam ability in Email server is a must.

regards

Joe=20



>
>LP
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Larry


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