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RE: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Smith, Donald)
Thu Jun 24 21:28:45 2004

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:26:10 -0600
From: "Smith, Donald" <Donald.Smith@qwest.com>
To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race " <jrace@attglobal.net>,
	<owner-nanog@merit.edu>, "Ben Browning " <benb@theriver.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Are you offering to finance ISP's legal battles against spammers?

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu
To: Ben Browning
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Sent: 6/24/2004 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network


On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:50:44 -0700, Ben Browning wrote:

>Likewise, I imagine MCI could argue that the damage is to their core=20
>product; namely, the trust of other ISPs and their willingness to
exchange=20
>traffic with MCI.


This was Earthlink's argument in the case I cited in=20
<http://www.camblab.com/nugget/spam_03.pdf>: their
connectivity was jeopardized by the spammer's activity.
As far as I know they prevailed.

The point is, we have not seen MCI go down valiantly on the
field of battle against the spammers in court or anywhere else.
I proposed a complete open-and-shut legal case to MCI, with
the perp's legal service address, and Neil Patel refused to take
any action.   The management's intention was clear: continue
to profit rather than take the perps to court.   All this talk about
how difficult it would be blah blah blah is just a smokescreen for
inaction

Jeffrey Race





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