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Re: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ben Browning)
Thu Jun 24 18:48:39 2004

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:42:45 -0700
To: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@mci.com>
From: Ben Browning <benb@theriver.com>
Cc: "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0406242136030.521@sharpie.argfrp.us.uu.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


At 02:36 PM 6/24/2004, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Ben Browning wrote:
>
> >
> > >like showing that the spammer was actually sending enough of a volume to
> > >swamp their core routers....
> >
> > Likewise, I imagine MCI could argue that the damage is to their core
> > product; namely, the trust of other ISPs and their willingness to exchange
> > traffic with MCI.
>
>you mean the phone companies we do business with?

No, I mean the internet. (Hence, ISPs). Your product, in the context of 
this discussion anyways, is access to the internet. When the actions of a 
downstream damage that product(IE more and more networks nullroute UUNet 
traffic), I would assume that you have appropriate privilege to toss them 
overboard in the contracts.

IANAL, though.

~Ben
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    Ben Browning <benb@theriver.com>
       The River Internet Access Co.
          WA Operations Manager
1-877-88-RIVER  http://www.theriver.com


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