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Re: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ben Browning)
Thu Jun 24 15:18:53 2004

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:50:44 -0700
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, "Dr. Jeffrey Race" <jrace@attglobal.net>
From: Ben Browning <benb@theriver.com>
Cc: Mike Lewinski <mike@rockynet.com>,
	"nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <200406241816.i5OIGntR026597@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


At 11:16 AM 6/24/2004, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:22:02 +0700, "Dr. Jeffrey Race" 
><jrace@attglobal.net>  said:
>
> > Not at all.  You can terminate for actions prejudicial to the safety 
> and security
> > of the system.   Has nothing to do with anti-trust.
>
>I suspect that the spammer can find a lawyer who is willing to argue the idea
>that the "safety and security" of the AS701 backbone was not prejudiced by
>the spammer's actions, unless AS701 is able to show mtrg graphs and the
>like showing that the spammer was actually sending enough of a volume to
>swamp their core routers....

Likewise, I imagine MCI could argue that the damage is to their core 
product; namely, the trust of other ISPs and their willingness to exchange 
traffic with MCI.

~Ben

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    Ben Browning <benb@theriver.com>
       The River Internet Access Co.
          WA Operations Manager
1-877-88-RIVER  http://www.theriver.com


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