[71859] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Shultz)
Thu Jun 24 14:34:53 2004
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:27:10 -0700
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: "Jeff Shultz" <jeffshultz@wvi.com>
Reply-To: "Jeff Shultz" <jeffshultz@wvi.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0406241356310.12001@ls02.fas.harvard.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
I think you (and possibly The Register) are overreacting.
The DHS is doing what it is paid to do: Look for the worst case
scenario, predict the damage.
And the reporting requirements that the DHS is arguing against _aren't
even in effect yet._
** Reply to message from Scott McGrath <mcgrath@fas.harvard.edu> on
Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT)
> I did read the article and having worked for gov't agencies twice in my
> career a proposal like the one floated by DHS is just the camel's nose.
>
> I should hope the carriers oppose this.
>
> Now a call comes into our ops center "I cant reach my experiment at
> Stanford". Ops looks up the outages Oh yeah there's a fiber cut affecting
> service we will let you know when it's fixed. They check it's fixed they
> call the customer telling them to try it now.
>
> Under the proposed regime "We know its dead do not know why or when it
> will be fixed because it' classified information" This makes for
> absolutely wonderful customer service and it protects public safety how?.
>
>
>
> Scott C. McGrath
>
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Tad Grosvenor wrote:
>
> > Did you read the article? The DHS is urging that the FCC drop the proposal
> > to require outage reporting for "significant outages." This isn't the DHS
> > saying that outage notifications should be muted. The article also
> > mentions: "Telecom companies are generally against the proposed new
> > reporting requirements, arguing that the industry's voluntary efforts are
> > sufficient."
> >
> > -Tad
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
> > Scott McGrath
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:58 PM
> > To: nanog@merit.edu
> > Subject: Homeland Security now wants to restrict outage notifications
> >
> >
> >
> > See
> >
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/24/network_outages/
> >
> > for the gory details. The Sean Gorman debacle was just the beginning
> > this country is becoming more like the Soviet Union under Stalin every
> > passing day in its xenophobic paranoia all we need now is a new version of
> > the NKVD to enforce the homeland security directives.
> >
> > Scott C. McGrath
> >
> >
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Jeff Shultz
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