[71856] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Unplugging spamming PCs
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Larry Pingree)
Thu Jun 24 14:22:44 2004
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:17:37 -0700
From: "Larry Pingree" <lpingree@juniper.net>
To: "Joe Hamelin" <nethead@gmail.com>
Cc: <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Hi Joe,
If only those who are approved email senders are allowed to be
accepted, this allows police, FBI, or DHS to go after only those who are
registered and abusing it. It's for the same purpose that we administer
car registrations, so that at the end of the day, someone is responsible
for the car. In this case, someone can be responsible for the domain and
mail server. In its current state, we are left way in the open. I don't
disagree that government control is un-desirable, but remember, at least
in my mind, even though it may be undesirable, it may be a necessary
action. Anyone know why we have to get a drivers license? How about a
passport? What about a SSN? All of these things are ways in which we
can have accountability. Without accountability we will remain in
anarchy. All that government does is bridge a gap when corporations,
which only do things for profit, will not collaborate on an appropriate
solution to a problem, even though one exists.
LP
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Best Regards,
=20
Larry
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Larry Pingree
"Visionary people, are visionary, partly because of the great many
things they never get to see." - Larry Pingree
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hamelin [mailto:nethead@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 5:26 PM
To: Larry Pingree
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Unplugging spamming PCs
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:40:23 -0700, Larry Pingree <lpingree@juniper.net>
wrote:
> I agree with you it's a hard problem to solve. But unless there is
> mandatory cooperation within mail server software (which can be
> monitored) to interface with a registry of acceptable/registered
sites,
> then this model could work.=20
I can telnet to a mailserver and send mail to that host without much
thought. What good will a registry do? What will solve spam is
getting some of these virus writers to actually write some code that
will trash disks of poorly patched (if a at all) hosts. Let Darwin
take over.
-Joe
