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Re: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher L. Morrow)
Thu Jun 24 10:53:35 2004

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:53:00 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@mci.com>
In-reply-to: <006b01c459d3$8d40c420$231a90d8@NTAUTHORITY>
To: George Roettger <geoincidents@nls.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu




On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, George Roettger wrote:

>
>
> > This process happens repeatedly, spammers know they can get about a month
> > of time (or more, depending on upstreams and hosting providers in
> > question) of life, either way it's just 50 bucks....
>
> forgive my question, but why does it take a month? If you had a bad route
> causing an outage for the spammer, would it take a month for the involved
> ISPs to fix that?

spammer comes, starts work, spams, complaints arrive, downstream customer
is notified of 'problem', they get their 3 strikes to deal with said
problem, then the ip is null routed. Sometimes it's a month, sometimes
less. It's situationally dependent :( I picked a round number because
saying: "Spammers get 9.759 days on average per webhosting adventure" is
cumbersome.

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