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Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Sun Jun 13 10:12:38 2004

In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0406130548150.5909@clifden.donelan.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:11:57 -0400
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
From: John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


At 6:31 AM -0400 6/13/04, Sean Donelan wrote:
>If they were, you would expect to see a difference between barns with
>doors and barns without doors.  But in practice, we see people with and
>without firewalls with infected computers. 

If you're asserting that having firewalls in the path doesn't have
any impact on rate of infection, please provide a link to this data.
Sure, I've even seen infected computers in rooms that don't (or
should not have had) any connectivity, but that just means it is
not a perfect world.  Lot's of things make it through firewalls
(email-based worms come to mind) but from what I've seen they
are quite effective at protecting networks of otherwise helpless
comes-out-of-the-box-wide-open PC's.

/John

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