[71341] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Sun Jun 13 03:04:02 2004
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:01:33 -0700
To: John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
>>> One could imagine changing the paradigm (never easy) so that
>>> the normal Internet service was proxied for common applications
>>> and NAT'ed for everything else... This wouldn't eliminate all the
>>> problems, but would dramatically cut down the incident rate.
>>>
>>> If a site wants wide-open access, just give it to them. If that turns
>>> out to cause operational problems (due to open mail proxies, spam
>>> origination, etc), then put 'em back behind the relays.
>>
>>guilty until proven innocent, eh? thanks mr ashcroft.
>
> Randy, are you objecting to the model for initial connectivity,
> or the throwing them back behind relays w/o a formal trial?
the former, see previous post about the e2e internet
if you can actually diagnose bad traffic, then you may
have a right to act
randy
