[71335] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internet
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Sun Jun 13 00:41:56 2004
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0406130405170.5783@rampart.argfrp.us.uu.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:41:17 -0400
To: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@mci.com>
From: John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
At 4:21 AM +0000 6/13/04, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
>
>We have methods of dealing with these abuse problems today, unfortanately
>as Paul Vixie often points out there are business reasons why these
>problems persist. Often the 'business' reason isn't the
>tin-foil-hat-brigade's reason so much as 'we can't afford to keep these
>abuse folks around since they don't make money for the company'.
I'll argue that we have don't effective methods of dealing with this today,
and it's not the lack of abuse desk people as much as the philosophy of
closing barn doors after the fact. The idea that we can leave everything
wide open for automated exploit tools, and then clean up afterwards
manually with labor-intensive efforts is fundamentally flawed.
/John
