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Re: Even you can be hacked

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Jun 10 18:02:30 2004

Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:58:50 -0700
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: Alex Rubenstein <alex@nac.net>,
	Crist Clark <crist.clark@globalstar.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.53.0406101630430.3632@phosphorus.hq.nac.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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--On Thursday, June 10, 2004 16:31 -0400 Alex Rubenstein <alex@nac.net>=20
wrote:

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> On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Crist Clark wrote:
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>>
>> Sean Donelan wrote:
>>
>> > If you leave your lights on, the electric company will send you a =
bill.
>>
>> If the neighbor taps into your power lines after the meter...?
>
> That will be a criminal matter between you and your neighbour.
>
>
Technically, it's a civil matter between you and your neighbor, but, it=20
could
also be a criminal matter between the district attorney and your neighbor.

>> > If you leave your faucets running, the water company will send you a
>> > bill. If you leave your computer infected, ???
>>
>> If you lose your credit card and someone runs up thousands of dollars
>> in charges, the credit card company sends you a bill... But you can at
>> most be held responsible for $50.
>
> Which is a 'feature' of most credit cards, irrelevant to criminal law.
>
We're not talking about criminal law here, for the most part.  We're =
talking
about civil law.  There are laws specific to credit cards and credit fraud
that have absolutely no applicability to internet usage.  I think we can
generally agree that the internet looks much more like a utility than
it looks like a revolving charge account.

Owen



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