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Re: Even you can be hacked

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Shultz)
Thu Jun 10 14:42:31 2004

Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:19:56 -0700
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: "Jeff Shultz" <jeffshultz@wvi.com>
Reply-To: "Jeff Shultz" <jeffshultz@wvi.com>
In-Reply-To: <40C8A333.6060904@cox.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


** Reply to message from "Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr."
<LarrySheldon@cox.net> on Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:06:43 -0500

> Jeff Shultz wrote:
> 
> 
> > But ultimately, _you_ are responsible for your own systems.
> 
> Even if the water company is sending me 85% TriChlorEthane?
> 
> Right.  Got it.  The victim is always responsible.
> 
> There you have it folks.

A. Straw man
B. Apple/Kumquat arguement

Who is the victim here? The user who's computer was infected due to
their own lack of responsibilty (and was not fixed... remember that
part, _was_not_fixed_), or the ISP who isn't going to get a rebate on
their upstream bandwidth bill that was in turn inflated by that
customer.

-- 
Jeff Shultz
A railfan pulls up to a RR crossing hoping that
there will be a train. 


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