[7107] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Info on MAE-EAST
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nathan Stratton)
Fri Jan 17 10:54:18 1997
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:47:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Nathan Stratton <nathan@netrail.net>
To: "Alec H. Peterson" <ahp@hilander.com>
cc: Jeremy Porter <jerry@fc.net>, Stan Barber <sob@academ.com>,
"Brett L. Hawn" <blh@nol.net>, Chris Caputo <ccaputo@alt.net>,
nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Mutt.19970117010616.chuckie@kurgan.erols.com>
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Alec H. Peterson wrote:
> The reason MAE-east and MAE-west have grown so much is because they
> are located in areas where there is lots of traffic flowing. The
> popularity of peering points has almost nothing to do with the
> interconnect costs, those are peanuts to most companies. Why on earth
> would I drag a DS3 n-thousand miles to some city that doesn't have any
> traffic flowing to/from it? I wouldn't, because it would be a waste
> of money.
You would not, but most providers have DS3 or OC3 to Atlanta anyway, so it
is not a lot to extend a 0 mile DS3 or even OC3. Also Florida is one of
the fastest growing ISP markets in the US and it is MUCH better to go to
Atlanta-NAP to exchange traffic then to go to MAE-East or MAE-Dallas.
> Also, I daresay MFS has substantially more experience in selling
> access to and operating peering points than you do, as they've been
> running the two biggest ones for years, and obviously haven't had any
> problem whatsoever selling access to them. The newer MAEs might not
Ya, and most of them will work for me, I get so many calls form MFS people
it is not even funny. I don't know what is going on over there, but they
want to jump.
> have all that many connections into them yet, but the pricing of the
> connection to the switch is not the limiting factor. It's the tens of
> thousands of dollars for the DS3/OC3 to the colo point.
Well I am not saying Erols should drop a DS3 to Atlanta-NAP, you need to
connect to the NSF NAPs first. Atlanta-NAP is not the place for people
like you who just sit off MAE-East and buy transit from other ISPs that do
that same. It is more for people who have a nationwide network and would
like to spend a little money to exchange traffic in Atlanta and not bring
it all to MAE-East.
Nathan Stratton President, NetRail,Inc.
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