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Re: backscatter hosts

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Capo)
Wed May 19 12:19:46 2004

Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:18:56 -0400
From: John Capo <jc@irbs.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Reply-To: jc@irbs.com
In-Reply-To: <20040518233142.GJ26942@hesketh.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Quoting Steven Champeon (schampeo@hesketh.com):
> 
> It's not really my business why a hotmail.com MX accepted mail it
> couldn't deliver. I could care less /why/. It's up to hotmail to fix
> their systems - I don't care how they perform that background check on
> quota. 

Exactly.

> 
> It's my business that over the past sixty days, we've had to reject over
> 23K of these, and had rejected some 130K in three weeks during March, at
> the peak of the joe job. At one point, backscatter accounted for 70% of
> my inbound email traffic on one host. Almost made the usual spam and
> virus look like background noise.
> 

36K backscatter rejects from hotmail yesterday but only 2K from
AOL.  AOL has really got their act together compared to hotmail,
verizon, comcast, and the like.

May 18 00:00:05 mx1 postfix/smtpd[11977]: 6F8F315DC0: reject: RCPT from mc1-s21.bay6.hotmail.com[65.54.163.161]: 550 <xjlljuzisexmj@tuffmail.co.uk>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown; Probably forged by Alan Ralsky; from=<> to=<xjlljuzisexmj@tuffmail.co.uk> proto=ESMTP helo=<mc1-s21.hotmail.com>

It was 80K daily from hotmail till I dropped the MX records for 4
of the domains being forged.  If anyone would like to test their
capability to reject 1+ million a day I can point the MX records
to your servers. :-)

John Capo
Tuffmail.com


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