[7046] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave O'Shea)
Wed Jan 15 19:11:06 1997
From: "Dave O'Shea" <doshea@mail.wiltel.net>
To: "Vadim Antonov" <avg@pluris.com>, <com-priv@lists.psi.com>,
<nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:04:14 -0600
>
> Ok, it looks like Bay Networks made a sweet deal with
> Chinese commies. Essentially, they will provide
> technology for the state propaganda network and
> censored Internet.
Personally, I think Bay does make for more easily-modified access control;
with Cisco, removing one IP from an Access List From Hell is usually too
much task to be worth it.
And if I could have undersold Bay by a percent, I'd be doing the Taipei
Tango whilst plugging away on a 7513.
>
> Their "partnership" with censors of a communist regime
> is repugnant. Using the modern technology to build a
> giant brainwashing machine is very scary.
Actually, few brainwashing schemes could beat what Madison Avenue churns
out. When you can get the American public thinking that a certain type of
shoes or jeans will make you socially acceptable, you've got the Chinese
beat pretty bad. Mao Tse Tung ain't got nothing on the Marlboro Cowboy.
>
> Some companies will do anything for a buck, though.
The corporation exists maximize shareholder value; the good press from the
sale (and the sale itself) obviously outweighs the risk of bad press.
>
> How about boycotting their products in U.S. and other
> democratic countries?
I dunno; suppose I boycott every company that sells to some organization
that I find repugnant? Pretty soon, I won't be able to find a car to drive,
a grocery store to shop in, or a telephone to talk on.
