[70436] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Pay-As-You-Use High-Speed Internet?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan M. Slivko)
Fri May 14 18:03:36 2004
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:53:15 -0400
From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" <jslivko@invisiblehand.net>
To: Deepak Jain <deepak@ai.net>
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <4005C750.8050807@ai.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Agreed.
-- Jonathan
Deepak Jain wrote:
>
> In an application where you pay-as-you-go with hard limits, the site
> stops responding under the slashdotted activity. The limit protects the
> ISP and the customer from a dispute, and the customer decides whether to
> rethink their hard limits or the popularity of their content.
>
> DJ
>
> Jonathan M. Slivko wrote:
>
>>
>> To answer your question, in our colo evironment, incomming traffic is
>> free and not measured for billing purposes (but I assume this will be
>> different on the ISP platform).
>>
>> As far as being slashdotted, if it does happen - then your agent from
>> our application will watch - and adhere to - the budget that you had
>> initially set and any "Quick Response" settings that you had set, too.
>>
>> Disputes, as far as what? The bandwidth that is purchased is all
>> logged into a database for review/auditing. As for the burden of
>> proof, see my previous statement.
>>
>> -- Jonathan
>>
>> Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 May 2004 17:22:03 EDT, "Jonathan M. Slivko"
>>> <jslivko@invisiblehand.net> said:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Personally, I would like to see a senario where everyone just pays
>>>> for what they use - it would be a much better system for allowing
>>>> people who
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Questions? Comments? Suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who pays for a DDoS attack, or getting flooded by bounces from a
>>> spammer's
>>> joe-job or A/V companies warning spam when somebody else's box spoofs my
>>> e-mail address?
>>>
>>> If they have a website, who pays how much if it's slashdotted? (Serious
>>> question there - I may have budgeted for only several hundred or a
>>> thousand
>>> hits a day, and if 200K hits costs too much, I may be in trouble...)
>>>
>>> How do you handle disputes? Who has the burden of proof?
>>>
>>> Those are all questions I'd be asking as a potential customer..
>>>
>>> And the biggie for you is: How do you handle these issues on a low
>>> margin? ;)
>>
>>
>>
--
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