[70109] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Buying and selling root certificates
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Lesher)
Thu Apr 29 11:40:18 2004
From: David Lesher <wb8foz@nrk.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu (nanog list)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:44:11 -0400 (EDT)
In-Reply-To: <200404291503.i3TF3O2P015393@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> from "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" at Apr 29, 2004 11:03:24 AM
Reply-To: wb8foz@nrk.com
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
>
>
> Yes, a *very* well funded and determined adversary can beat crypto (almost
> always by doing an end run around it). However, raising the bar to that level
> will eliminate all the successful attacks by lesser adversaries, and can also
> contribute to the bankrupting of the well-funded - even the FBI can afford only
> a few Scarfo-scale cases a year...
This is now wildly OT, but to close:
a) CALEA, Carnivore etc. are ALL about cost-shifting. The Feebees
used to talk about breaking cases with "a dime & a dime" meaning
informants calls, and wiretaps. The current fights are about
victims^H^Htargets of interest furnishing those dimes themselves.
b) Scarfo is case that made little sense to many observers. Nicky
was scarcely Vincent Gigante or Gotti; from what I've read, he
ran a few girls and some policy [bookmaking] while Daddy is up
the river.
So why did the Feebees make such a BIG deal out of it? Donno;
usually they are that dedicated only when a) HQ is leaning on
them or B) they can be on TV....
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