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Re: Lazy network operators - NOT

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Vixie)
Mon Apr 19 10:08:21 2004

From: Paul Vixie <paul@vix.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Message from Petri Helenius <pete@he.iki.fi> 
	of "Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:48:24 +0300."
	<40837638.90504@he.iki.fi> 
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:07:43 +0000
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> >there's no choice at all, really.
>
> Are you suggesting to drop all traffic (which, if widespread would get
> attention) or just email?

at the moment i'm proposing just e-mail.  but that's only because we should
already be rejecting udp/137 and udp/138 and udp/139 from outside our campuses
and there's no reason to selectively reject that stuff from "broadband" nets.
in the future we may find ourselves rejecting all non-"pull" transactions of
whatever protocol.  these are fundamentally access networks, and statistically
speaking, "everything" that's been done with service or p2p from a "broadband"
network has been bad for somebody, somewhere.

> If you´re suggesting only email blocking, you'll promote email-peering
> agreement, eventually with settlement, architechture.

actually i'm not suggesting it, i'm letting you all know that it's coming;
and, i'm not promoting settlements, but rather whitelists.

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