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RE: Lazy network operators

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen J. Wilcox)
Wed Apr 14 11:43:40 2004

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:42:56 +0100 (BST)
From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve@telecomplete.co.uk>
To: Michel Py <michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us>
Cc: David Cantrell <david@cantrell.org.uk>, <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <DD7FE473A8C3C245ADA2A2FE1709D90B0DB094@server2003.arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Michel Py wrote:

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> > David Cantrell wrote:
> > Sounds to me like you need a new ISP.
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> > Stephen J. Wilcox:
> > Not being happy with the ISP's smarthost is not justification
> > to run your own; you should change ISPs..
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> Always like when people have miracle solutions. Care to suggest just _one=
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> that does it for $36 a month? That includes:

Move to the UK, I'll do one for you..

> - Static IP
> - 384k up
> - 1.5m down
> - historically very high reliability
> - national dial-up account included
> - 50 meg attachements authorized
> - mailing list traffic (large number of recipients)
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> I'm all ears?

Ok so now you hit another problem, what you're saying is that the cablecos =
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running at such small margin that they are no longer in a position to imple=
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policies like this and fix their smarthost systems?=20

Sounds like this solution has come to a halt on economic grounds.

Steve

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> > Daryl G. Jurbala wrote:
> > Reverting to 56k dialup to solve a mail relay
> > problem on your only choice for 3MB/512k service
> > doesn't exactly sound reasonable.
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> Thank you.
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> > Petri Helenius wrote:
> > Changing providers when problems arise is a viable
> > option when;
> > - Available services are more uniform
> > - Email addresses are generally portable
> > - Switching your local access provider happens in
> > less than a business day or two
> > And as has been previously stated, most people
> > don=B4t have multiple options for local provider
> > unless they want to dial up.
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> Thank you.
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> Michel.
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