[69432] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Packet anonymity is the problem?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Provo)
Sun Apr 11 07:58:51 2004
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:58:09 -0400
From: Joe Provo <nanog-post@rsuc.gweep.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 03:36:44AM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote:
[snip]
> in another thread tonight i see subjects like "lazy network
> operators" and at first glance, those are the people you're
> describing (who don't really care.)
>
> however, that's simple-minded. "because of the way tcp/ip
> works..." is a very good lead-in toward the actual cause of
> this apparent non-caring / laziness.
>
> because of the way ip works, and because of the way human
> nature works, many of the things that would have to be done
> to fix this problem have assymetric cost/benefit. if a
> network provider isn't lazy, then everyone except them will
> benefit from that non-laziness. human nature says that ain't
> happening.
I have heard the 'assymetric cost/benefit' rationale for the
bad laziness (sloppiness, not the larry wall-esque 'good'
laziness of automation) on and off the last few years.
Similarly, I have heard about the tremendous cost of sloppiness
and human error in terms of root-cause for networking badness
for the past several years.
Seems that these items are related...
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