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Re: BGP TTL check in 12.3(7)T

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Pekka Savola)
Thu Apr 8 16:31:35 2004

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 23:29:56 +0300 (EEST)
From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Cc: Blaine Christian <blaine.christian@mci.com>,
	"<nanog@merit.edu>" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4A355820-8995-11D8-B512-000A95CD987A@muada.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> > You have an interesting point WRT the TTL 0.  Perhaps if you receive
> > a packet with a TTL of 0 that is destined for yourself you should just
> > accept it?
> 
> The interesting thing is that packets with a TTL of 0 wouldn't 
> ordinarily be seen in the wild. A router won't forward a packet with a 
> TTL of 1 (as this becomes 0 during the forwarding process) and a host 
> that sends out packets with a TTL 0 can only expect to communicate on 
> the local subnet. (So I guess doing all of this with TTL 0 rather than 
> 255 would have been just as effective.)

Even sending packets with TTL=0 is invalid, so this is a moot point.  
Or were you proposing modifying the sending and receiving 
implementations and the IPv4/6 specifications?

From hosts requirements for v4, for example:

            A host MUST NOT send a datagram with a Time-to-Live (TTL)
            value of zero.

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Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
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