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Re: Anti-Spam Router -- opinions?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Apr 6 13:32:04 2004

To: Matthew Crocker <matthew@crocker.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:14:31 EDT."
             <DE88ADFE-87ED-11D8-9653-000A956885D4@crocker.com> 
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:28:57 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:14:31 EDT, Matthew Crocker said:

> IF you can rate-limit them across the whole Internet,  If you limit 2 
> million machines to 20 msgs/day per mail server you are back up to your 
> 10 Billion msgs/day mark.  This is where DCC or other distributed 
> checksum systems come into play.

My point was that there's no real *need* to distinguish between a legitimate
user sending 20 emails and an 0wned box sending 20 emails, as the distinction
is "legitimate 20 emails" versus "0wned 20K emails".

If I were to only give my users 20 outbound connections/day, there wouldn't be
a per-mail-server issue. Whether I can make such a policy stick is another
question entirely.


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