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Re: the value of reverse address lookups?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew - Supernews)
Wed Mar 31 22:22:28 2004

To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20040401022912.GT37789@skywalker.creative.net.au> (Adrian
 Chadd's message of "Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:29:12 +0800")
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:16:51 +0100
From: "Andrew - Supernews" <andrew@supernews.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


>>>>> "Adrian" == Adrian Chadd <adrian@creative.net.au> writes:

 Adrian> if you reverse resolve, then some registry somewhere (ARIN,
 Adrian> RIPE, APNIC, etc) recognises that network as having 'valid'
 Adrian> contact details and has assigned someone reverse authority.

 Adrian> It stops some IP block hijackers - if you find the right
 Adrian> peer, you can just pop up for a bit, say "hi! I'm foo/12!",
 Adrian> start spamming from a few /16's worth of IPs, then drop away
 Adrian> after an hour.

This tactic is often bandied about - but given the number of people
and sites that track BGP changes, why does no one produce any evidence
of it actually happening?

 Adrian> In practice, at least with IP block hijackers, they'll either
 Adrian> (a) hijack a smaller chunk of a registered/announced ip
 Adrian> network, complete with nameservers, or
 Adrian> (b) they'll find a registered but un-announced ip network,
 Adrian> with the in-addr authoritative nameservers inside said
 Adrian> network, and just pop up for spamming there.

Most commonly, IP space hijackers start by falsely updating the
registration info at the RIR, and/or forging letters of authority
purporting to allow them to announce the block, and work from there.

-- 
Andrew, Supernews
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