[68843] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Update on Querying IADB
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.)
Wed Mar 17 15:49:21 2004
From: "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." <amitchell@isipp.com>
To: "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." <amitchell@isipp.com>,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:50:32 -0800
Cc: nanog@trapdoor.merit.edu
In-reply-to: <200403171704.i2HH43gE008381@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> > 127.3.100.3 Accepts unverified sign-ups, gives chance to opt out
>
> > 127.3.100.5 Has opt-in confirmation mechanism
> > 127.3.100.6 Has and uses opt-in confirmation mechanism
>
> > 127.3.100.10 All mailing list mail is confirmed opt-in
>
> Hmm.. this is loads of fun if you're running a Listserv that has
> several thousand lists defined, and not all of them have the same
> policies (for instance, although the vast majority of our lists are
> 'confirmed opt-in', we have several lists that are bulk-loaded with
> database extracts for "captive audience" lists such as "all freshmen",
> "all grad students", and so on).
In a case like this we would list any IPs from which *only* come
confirmed lists separately, so that they would get the 127.3.100.10
listing. Otherwise we would look at the lowest common denominator
and use that data code response.
> Also, the pricing seems a bit whacked - are you *really* expecting
> sites that have less than 30 customers to pay $200/month? I know a
> *lot* of people who have formed collectives of 10-15 people who chip
> in and get a 1U at a colo....
I've already answered this on the fly, separately, but it bears
repeating. If you are talking about non-commercial mailing lists,
that would probably qualify for the newsletter publisher rate, which
is only $10/month.
It's also critical that people understand that you are now talking
about *being listed* in IADB, not about querying IADB, which is
always free (We've heard from at least one list member who thought
these rates being talked about were to *query* the list).
> It's totally unclear how you can encode an "individual" listing - that
> whole "stuff to the left of the @ sign" thing is rather unhandy...
Are you asking about "is there a data response code for "individual"?
There *could* be, but we determined that in the scheme of things
which most receiving systems care about, it doesn't matter. What
matters is the type of mail they send.
Anne
