[68690] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Weeks)
Mon Mar 15 16:58:44 2004
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:32:38 -1000 (HST)
From: Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <052a01c40acd$03bb5a80$6401a8c0@alexh>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Alexei Roudnev wrote:
: I expect, that good (tier-3, to say) network engineer MUST know Windows and
: Unix (== Linux, FreeBSD etc) on tear-2 (or better) level. Else, he will not
: be able to troubleshout his _network problem_ (because they are more likely
: complex Network + System + Application + Cable problem).
:
: So, it is not a good answer.
No true in many cases. All I have to prove is it's not the network and
then I hand it off to the windows/*nix/<whatever> sysadmins. To prove
it's not the network, I don't need to know the end systems in any sort of
detail.
scott
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Pete Templin" <petelists@templin.org>
: To: <nanog@merit.edu>
: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:16 AM
: Subject: Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap
: (personal) 1U colo?)
:
:
: >
: > Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
: >
: > > Pete Templin wrote:
: > >> There's a reason I've gotten out of small ISP consulting - I don't do
: > >> Windows, and I'm getting overrun by Linux corrosion slowly. I route,
: > >> I switch, I help with securing networks. And I do wear a lot of hats
: > >> at my day job, but I remind them that they hired a specialist, and
: > >> promised lots of server support all along the way. Granted, the
: > >> Windows guy is overloaded and the UNIX/Linux guy would snore in front
: > >> of his PHB...
: > >
: > > If you are in Nebraska I can help you with the Unemploy^WWorkforce
: > > Development paperwork.
: >
: > I didn't suggest saying "I'm not gonna do it". I just suggested "You
: > hired me to deploy dynamic routing on your statically-routed network.
: > What prompted you to think that I could configure site-wide anti-virus
: > services such that no one ever reports a virus leak from our enterprise,
: > without training, time to test and develop such a critical solution, or
: > both?"
: >
: > pt
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