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Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher L. Morrow)
Sun Mar 14 15:46:53 2004

Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:45:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@mci.com>
To: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Cc: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@research.att.com>,
	North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <018901c4097b$6bc6e200$6401a8c0@ssprunk>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> Thus spake "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@research.att.com>
> > filter, and the upstream repeaters are fed by a low-pass filter.  If
> > too many people are fielding home servers, it affects everyone.
>
> So DOCSIS has a technical limitation which may or may not apply.  This is
> reasonable justification for limiting upstream bandwidth, not for specifying
> that users can't run servers.  If users can run servers effectively in the
> limited available upstream bandwidth, then there is no _technical_ reason to
> prevent them.

how are 'servers' (smtp/web/ftp/imap) different than the existing P2P
apps? Wouldn't a cable provider, if the decision was based on upstream
bandwidth sharing alone, care MORE about P2P than 'servers' ?

>
> Other last-mile technologies provide symmetric bandwidth yet providers still
> prohibit servers; this is clearly a business issue, not a technical one.
>

Correct, or so it would seem... the cable modem providers can charge you
more for a 'business class' service, which allows 'servers' to be hosted.


--Chris
(formerly chris@uu.net)
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