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Re: Counter DoS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Etaoin Shrdlu)
Thu Mar 11 10:05:59 2004

Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:58:23 -0800
From: Etaoin Shrdlu <shrdlu@deaddrop.org>
To: Nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


"Pendergrass, Greg" wrote:
> 
> I can see now that it's only a matter of time before some nut writes "The
> Art of War in the Internet". I read the whitepaper, it goes on a lot about
> how defensive policies are ineffective but doesn't really say why active
> response has never been tried:

Ask, and ye shall receive.

http://btobsearch.barnesandnoble.com/textbooks/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2XH986JPUE&btob=Y&isbn=1581128576&TXT=Y&itm=1

I thought that someone mentioned that Mr. Forno was reputed to be on staff
with these folk. 

> Their proposition is a terrible idea and their "rules of engagement" would
> be funny instead of frightening if it wasn't serious

I note that he also has a title from last year, which seems applicable
here:

Weapons of Mass Delusion (ISBN 158961111X)

I will point out that I cannot take seriously a company (Symbiot) that
depends on a shockwave plugin to put up a web page.

Pity that they came out so aggressively; it might have been an interesting
product. Hype can kill as well as sell.

--
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning.
It is by caffeine only I set my mind in motion.

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