[67822] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [IP] VeriSign prepares to relaunch "Site Finder" -- calls
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland )
Mon Feb 23 14:27:17 2004
To: Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu, brunner@nic-naa.net
In-Reply-To: Your message of "23 Feb 2004 18:22:20 GMT."
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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:41:34 -0500
From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> nanog@riva.net (Randall Pigott) writes:
>
> > I am curious what the operational impact would be to network operators
> > if, instead of Verisign using SiteFinder over all com and net, Verisign
> > or their technology partner for SiteFinder began coercing a large number
> > of independent ISPs and network operators to install their form of DNS
> > redirection at the ISP-level, until all or most of the end-users out
> > there were getting redirected.
>
> It would be no worse than NEW.NET or any other form of DNS pollution/piracy
> (like the alternate root whackos), as long as it was clearly labelled. As
> an occasional operator of infrastructure, I wouldn't like the complaint load
> I'd see if the customers of such ISP's thought that *I* was inserting the
> garbage they were seeing. So I guess my hope is, it'll be "opt-in" with an
> explicitly held permission for every affected IP address (perhaps using some
> kind of service discount or enhancement as the carrot.)
Yup. This is the form I saw in the PRC, both with the CNNIC provisioned
means for resolving names using Big5 and/or GB encodings, and the Microsoft
and RealNames provisioned means for resolving names not in ASCII (with the
added benefit of a bug in MS's IE navagator's handling of Unicode).
There was a visible operational impact of the second service -- ever n2a
for n not in (ASCII or Big5 or GB) resulted in overseas b/w use, first to
Redmond, then to Redwood City, and finally to Reston. My hosts complained
of the cost of every browser in the PRC generating trans-pacific packet
streams.
North Americans on fat pipes may not care, but where the meter is running,
and ASCII is awkward, there will be operational measureables.
Eric
