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SMTP authentication for broadband providers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Ellis)
Tue Feb 10 20:43:16 2004

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:42:29 -0500
From: "Dan Ellis" <ellis@corp.ptd.net>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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Greetings,

We're a medium sized regional MSO/broadband provider with 200k+
mailboxes, strongly considering enabling SMTP authentication on our
customer-facing SMTP mail servers.  We feel this is the next logical
step to minimize our users UCE/virus impact (we already tarpit, virus
scan, UCE scan, subscribe to RBL's, reject prior to SMTP close). =20

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I'm looking for comments on whether this is generally seen as a positive
change or a waste of time (ie - will the next virus or worm gleam your
SMTP username and password from Outlook Express and use it to
replicate/SPAM)? =20

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Is anyone aware of any well known mail clients that do not support SMTP
authentication (Unix, Windows or Mac)?

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Thanks in advance.

  --Dan

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Daniel Ellis, CTO, PenTeleData

(610)826-9293

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    "The only way to predict the future is to invent it."

                                                  --Alan Kay

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We&#8217;re a medium sized regional MSO/broadband =
provider
with 200k+ mailboxes, strongly considering enabling SMTP authentication =
on our
customer-facing SMTP mail servers.&nbsp; We feel this is the next =
logical step
to minimize our users UCE/virus impact (we already tarpit, virus scan, =
UCE
scan, subscribe to RBL&#8217;s, reject prior to SMTP close).&nbsp; =
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I&#8217;m looking for comments on whether this is =
generally
seen as a positive change or a waste of time (ie &#8211; will the next =
virus or
worm gleam your SMTP username and password from Outlook Express and use =
it to
replicate/SPAM)? &nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Is anyone aware of any well known mail clients that =
do not
support SMTP authentication (Unix, Windows or Mac)?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks in advance.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3D"#008040" face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;color:#008040'>Daniel Ellis, CTO, =
PenTeleData</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3D"#008040" face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;color:#008040'>(610)826-9293</span></font></p>

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