[67399] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dumb users spread viruses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Jezierski - BOFH)
Mon Feb 9 13:13:49 2004
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.10.0.20040209090633.0571ee58@127.0.0.1>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:12:50 -0600
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: Mike Jezierski - BOFH <bofh@digitalfarmers.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
>At 02:46 PM 2/8/2004, Paul Vixie wrote:
>>In this past year's tour of my friends and family, I've taken to removing
>>their antivirus software at the same time I remove their spyware, and I've
>>taken to installing Mozilla (with its IMAP client) as a way to keep the
>>machine from having any dependency on anti-virus software. IT managers are
>>encouraged to consider a similar move next time they're asked to approve
>>the renewal costs of a campus-wide anti-virus license.
>
>Do you honestly think that any IT manager is going to be successful
>getting an entire company to dump Outlook/Exchange and stop using
>anti-virus software? Do you have an example (within the North
>American area of interest to NANOG members) where this has actually
>happened?
>
>IMHO, if you can convince an Outlook/Exchange using company to dump
>MS for email, you can convince them to dump MS/Windoze OSs entirely,
>which is a much more complete way to solve this problem.
>
>jc
As much as I respect Paul's opinions, are you sure Mozilla is viable
as a solution to the virus problem? I still fell it's an OS problem.
And yes even with Mozilla I still leave the AV software on a client's
PC. Lusers still like to click on things and having the mail client
/dev/null attachments is not viable as they want their family to send
attached pictures of the grandkids.
And JC, yes I am working on getting this company to move from Windows
to Mac. Windows users know better than to come to me with their
latest Windows Woes. I gently pat my iMac and say "Gee, I don't have
that problem" with a Smug BOFH grin :-)
--
Mike Jezierski
mike@digitalfarmers.org