[67287] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Stopping open proxies and open relays
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Vivien M.)
Sat Feb 7 01:07:19 2004
From: "Vivien M." <vivienm@dyndns.org>
To: "'Adi Linden'" <adil@adis.on.ca>
Cc: "'Michel Py'" <michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us>,
<nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 00:57:52 -0500
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0402062352120.10931-100000@mobile.adis.ca>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adi Linden [mailto:adil@adis.on.ca]=20
> Sent: February 7, 2004 12:54 AM
> To: Vivien M.
> Cc: 'Michel Py'; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: RE: Stopping open proxies and open relays
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> > If stricter laws on computers forced even 50% of people to start=20
> > caring a little more, wouldn't that be progress? The day a=20
> couple of=20
> > grandmothers get taken away in handcuffs because a script=20
> kiddie took=20
> > up residence in her computer is the day a few people will=20
> wake up to=20
> > the fact that computers need regular maintenance...
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> The the script kiddie gets taken away in handcuffs and lined=20
> up for the=20
> electric chair is when we see progress. I think you're confusing the=20
> criminal and the victim!
I have no objection to the electric chair for script kiddies, but =
tracing
them seems to be somewhat challenging sometimes. Identifying people who
don't maintain their computers is usually easier :)
And no, I'm not confusing the criminal and the victim. If you leave a =
loaded
handgun on your front porch and I come along and take it, then shoot =
your
neighbour's kid with it, then I would expect both you and I to be =
prosecuted
(though not for the same crime, of course).
Vivien
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Vivien M.
vivienm@dyndns.org
Assistant System Administrator
Dynamic Network Services, Inc.
http://www.dyndns.org/=20
