[67283] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

RE: Stopping open proxies and open relays

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Vivien M.)
Sat Feb 7 00:49:45 2004

From: "Vivien M." <vivienm@dyndns.org>
To: "'Michel Py'" <michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us>,
	<nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 00:47:01 -0500
In-Reply-To: <DD7FE473A8C3C245ADA2A2FE1709D90B0DAEBA@server2003.arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michel Py [mailto:michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us]=20
> Sent: February 7, 2004 12:43 AM
> To: Vivien M.; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: RE: Stopping open proxies and open relays
>=20
>=20
> > Vivien M. wrote:
> > Now, if hooking up an unsecured computer to a network was=20
> punishable=20
> > by a $1000 fine, and law enforcement somehow had the staff to=20
> > prosecute all offenders (or a representative sample), I'm sure=20
> > everybody would agree that suddenly they'd be able to afford=20
> > antiviruses.
>=20
> It's not that I don't like the idea, but it's been tried=20
> before. Making stupidity punishable by fines does not work;=20
> if it did we would not have a budget deficit issue.

Well, it seems to work relatively well when it comes to motor =
vehicles...
Oh, sure, there are still lots of morons driving unsafe =
poorly-maintained
vehicles around, but I'm sure there would be WAY way more if traffic =
laws
(and inspection requirements, etc, depending on your jurisdiction) went
byebye tomorrow. The problem, in any case, is one of limited enforcement
resources: triple the highway police force, and I'm sure a lot more =
morons
will get caught/fined/forced to fix their vehicles.

If stricter laws on computers forced even 50% of people to start caring =
a
little more, wouldn't that be progress? The day a couple of grandmothers =
get
taken away in handcuffs because a script kiddie took up residence in her
computer is the day a few people will wake up to the fact that computers
need regular maintenance...=20

Vivien
--=20
Vivien M.
vivienm@dyndns.org
Assistant System Administrator
Dynamic Network Services, Inc.
http://www.dyndns.org/=20


home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post