[672] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Funding for NAPs...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Avi Freedman)
Mon Oct 9 19:00:12 1995
From: Avi Freedman <freedman@netaxs.com>
To: sincos@bellcore.com (Dave Sincoskie)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:55:25 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: cook@cookreport.com, joliveto@cwi.net, nathan@netrail.net, dsiegel@rtd.com,
jgs@aads.net, mdz@netrail.net, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199510092142.RAA00212@gigabit.bellcore.com> from "Dave Sincoskie" at Oct 9, 95 05:42:27 pm
> Just to confirm, what Gordon said about the Bellcore/AADS/PB funding
> arrangement is true. AADS and PB do not receive any money from NSF for
> NAPs. Bellcore receives a small amount for coordinating the project, and for
> some network management research.
>
> Does the $2K (per month?) for connecting to the MFS NAP/MAE include access
> costs, or just the colocation charge?
> Dave
It includes access. Our 10mbit connection to MAE-East is not *at* MAE-East,
but at one of the "on-net" buildings that MFS has wired with fiber. ("Lit",
actually). In fact, there are 4 MAE-East connections there, 2 10mbit, a T3,
and a 100mbit FDDI connection.
And the 100mbit FDDI connections are a great deal: $5000/mo dedicated;
$4250/mo on the shared FDDI ring.
All prices include local loops to on-net buildings or space (which should
soon again become available) at MAE-East.
Until the Gigaswitch was in, it was easy to see how they made money -
etherswitches and Netedge boxes aren't *that* expensive, plus since MAE-East
was originally mostly colocated stuff, they made money on the local loops
(well, MFS Telecom did).
And up here in Philadelphia, MFS is taking a T3 to Pennsauken and providing
4 10mbit connections off of it for $4k/month. They make out great on the
deal the customers save a few thousand a month until they need a FDDI
connection/co-location (which isn't available now @ SprintNAP anyway).
MFS asked about doing a MAE-Philadelphia but my advice was that the bigger
entities would show up at Pennsauken. Net Access is working on a Frame/SMDS
peering plan - the RFC will go out to the ISPs/NSPs with Frame connectivity
later this month. Basically, those providers with T1 frame and/or multi-
megabit SMDS connections may want to peer with each other over the Bell
clouds to keep some traffic local, independant of larger peering plans.
Avi
