[66980] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Misplaced flamewar... WAS: RE: in case nobody else noticed it,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Vadim Antonov)
Fri Jan 30 07:27:30 2004
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 04:26:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Vadim Antonov <avg@kotovnik.com>
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Cc: "<nanog@merit.edu>" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <53853A52-5304-11D8-98F9-000A95CD987A@muada.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> Actually IMO putting all their crap in their own dir is a feature
> rather than a bug. I really hate the way unix apps just put their stuff
> all over the place so it's an incredible pain to get rid of it again.
Putting all crap in the working directory is bad design (no way to
separate read-only stuff from mutable). Unix/Linux design (all over the
place) is pure and simple lack of discipline, or "hack before thinking"
approach.
Plan 9 nearly got it right, but for the lack of persistent mounts (it's
all in an rc file, executed at each login).
> I think MacOS got it right: for most apps, installing just means
> dumping the icon wherever you want it to be, deinstalling is done by
> dropping it in the trash. The fact that the icon hides a directory with
> a bunch of different files in it is transparent to the user.
That's UI. Inside it's the same Unix crap.
> I think MS's tradeoffs are mainly time to market vs even faster time to
> market.
It's mostly "We don't care, we don't have to, we're The Microsoft"
mentality.
--vadim
