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Re: Out of office/vacation messages

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sun Jan 4 16:18:05 2004

Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 13:16:03 -0800
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <214A1342-3D41-11D8-934F-00039312C852@isc.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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1.	MTA is unlikely to create a user-agent header (unless it's really
	broken).  Stephen's comments seemed to be directed at MUA where
	the initial statement was about MTA.  I, frankly, agree that no
	self-respecting network operator runs an MTA on M$W, but, I also
	feel there are a lot of network operators that demonstrate little
	self respect by running M$W MTAs.

2.	I do understand that there are a variety of reasons someone may feel
	that they _HAVE_ to run am M$W MUA, and, for those people, I feel
	sympathy and encourage them to join the resistance.

3.	Vacation messages you see would also be from people on nanog-post,
	since, if you aren't on nanog-post, your vacation message will
	get dropped and not be posted to the list.

Owen


--On Friday, January 2, 2004 11:31 AM -0500 Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>=20
wrote:

>
>
> On 2 Jan 2004, at 10:44, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
>
>>>  - run on Windows,
>>> Oops, I see your problem.  No self-respecting network operator runs
>>> any
>>> M$W boxen as an MTA, so Templin is an imposter/troll.
>>
>> This isnt true, the majority run Windows (at least that's what I see in
>> various
>> meetings and from the user-agent headers)
>
> I'm not arguing with your conclusion, but your reasoning is a little
> broken. Only a small proportion of the nanog list membership attend
> meetings, and those that do don't necessarily provide a representative
> distribution (of any kind).
>
> Similarly, the user-agent headers you see are from people on nanog-post;
> I am told the nanog list is much bigger.
>
>
> Joe
>



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