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Re: Policies affecting the Internet as a whole - Hitting where it hurts

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Howard C. Berkowitz)
Fri Dec 27 12:07:12 1996

Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:56:53 -0500
To: David Schwartz <davids@wiznet.net>
From: hcb@clark.net (Howard C. Berkowitz)
Cc: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@easynet.net>, "Chris A. Icide" <chris@nap.net>,
        "'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>

At 11:29 AM 12/27/96, David Schwartz wrote:
>On Fri, 27 Dec 1996, Neil J. McRae wrote:
>
>> The last thing the Internet needs is some dodgy cartell deciding on
>> who is allowed access and who isn't. Although I've had similair experience
>> mostly from academic sites.
>
>        I think a list of sites that refuse to deal with troublemakers
>(with details) would be extremely useful. If people want to use it to
>blackhole traffic, that would be their decision.
>
>        Even more importantly, you could check it before choosing an ISP
>or provider to be sure that your provider is running a clean ship. That
>way you don't get inconvenienced by other provider's defensive acts
>against your provider.
>
>        As an added bonus, you have some more assurance that your provider
>will come to your aid if you are mail bombed, ping flooded, or hacked in
>some other way. Providers that deal effectively with their own customers
>when they create trouble are much more likely to assist their own
>customers when they are attacked.
>
>        David Schwartz
>        WIZnet

Perhaps the model we might examine is not so much a cartel that decides who
gets access, but that of a credit reporting service.  Each merchant that
uses such a reporting service makes an independent decision whether or not
to grant credit.

If such a service were established, I certainly would want to avoid the
secretiveness, and resistance to correction, that long affected -- and
still affects some -- credit bureaus.

Howard Berkowitz



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