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Re: Need Contact at RoadRunner

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Dec 8 10:24:40 2003

To: Michael.Dillon@radianz.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 08 Dec 2003 10:16:49 GMT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 10:24:03 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 10:16:49 GMT, Michael.Dillon@radianz.com said:

> Email peering *IS* a smarter hammer. If all the cluefull email
> administrators would set up peering agreements with each other
> and exchange contact information, there would be fewer of these
> situations.

There's a lot more people doing SMTP than doing BGP.  Also, AS1312 (us) and our
related routing swamp does BGP peering with less than a dozen peers, but we end
up talking SMTP to a good chunk of the world.  I've got one machine that all by
itself talked to 2,615 hosts in 1,612 second-level domains yesterday.

Unless you're advocating a return to the X.400-style ADMD/PRMD stuff,
this really is a non-starter.  I don't have time to set up 1,600+ peering agreements,
and possibly have to set up more just because somebody subscribes to a mailing list
(either somebody elsewhere subscribes to ours, or one of my users subscribes elsewhere).

And history has passed its own verdict on ADMD/PRMD.

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