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Re: Firewall stateful handling of ICMP packets

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adi Linden)
Thu Dec 4 11:23:22 2003

Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:22:40 -0600 (CST)
From: Adi Linden <adil@adis.on.ca>
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>, <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0312041050470.5921-100000@clifden.donelan.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> If ISPs charged customers $0.000001/email message, would it cure spam or
> would the spammers just continue to use third-party victims to spam and
> there would be lots of news stories about grandmothers and orphans getting
> huge ISP bills?  IANAL, but many spammers are already breaking a law by
> using victim machines without authorization; but would law enforcement be
> more likely to do something if the victims now had a $50,000 bill from
> their ISP due to the unauthorized traffic?

There will always be crooks and victims. But if becoming a victim actually 
has real world consequences it is much more likely that people will try 
not to become a victim.

I am not talking about sending bills for some outrageous amount due to 
excess bandwidth used. Instead cut off when a certain bandwidth threshold 
has been exceeded. If the bandwidth was used purposely and legitametly, 
buy more bandwidth, otherwise fix your PC.

Adi


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